Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:22:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710140622.BAA01149@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: tremau X-To: jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1663 X-From-Space-Date: Tue Oct 14 01:22:38 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU >So you say that {tremau} to you is {zmadu fi le ka ke'a mitre xokauroi} >"more in how often it is measured in meters" than {zmadu fi le ka ke'a >mitre makau} "more in how many meters it measures". Why would >you choose the more involved decomposition of the lujvo, when the >simpler one seems much more useful? I am having trouble debating this with you since I do not know whether you mean something different by "leka broda" in x3 of zmadu than I mean by "leni broda in the same position. In most cases, I would consider them interchangeable, since ni broda is simply a quantitative measurement of ka broda, but I am not sure that it is always the case, especially if you were to convince me that an object which is "na clani" also na se ckaji leka clani. ni broda always has a scale/degree associated with it as part of its place structure. ka broda does not necessarily have a scale (it is not part of the places structure of a ka abstraction) and hence I have trouble being sure what you mean by "zmadu fi le ka broda" in a quantitative sense. (I won't even address that fact that your use of ke'a totally loses me for reasons we have long argued, so I cannot answer your specific questions at all). lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.