Date:  Fri, 24 Oct 1997 19:29:32 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <199710250029.TAA14790@locke.ccil.org>
Reply-To: JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS <jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR>
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From: JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS <jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR>
Subject:      Re: machine translation
X-To:         lojban <lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu>
To: John Cowan <cowan@LOCKE.CCIL.ORG>
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cu'u la djef
>su'o bu'a cei na vreta zu'o le mlatu cu bu'a le stizu
>
>and Jorge also said that quantified selbri were an abomination on the
>langauge and that it didn't take much of a level of complexity before
>Lojban lost it in the ability to quantify the selbri, or some other such
>thing. Jorge, you'll have to clarify this or correct me if I'm wrong. :)

For example, does the above mean "at least one <X> which is
{na vreta}" or is it "at least one <X> which is not {vreta}"? The bu'a
system for Lojban is just not well thought up, it was sort of a last
minute addition. Selbri can still be quantified in the usual way
{su'o da poi selbri}, at the cost of having longer expressions.

>> I won't know
>> at least until I understand "anti-ka", which I have been given to
>> understand is the answer to my prayers and a can of worms.
>
>? I've never even HEARD of "anti-ka". Sounds toxic. :)

Indeed, I hope lojbab explains what he meant by that.

 co'o mi'e xorxes