Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:59:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710180159.UAA15185@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS Sender: Lojban list From: JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS Subject: Re: abstractors X-To: lojban To: John Cowan Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 740 X-From-Space-Date: Fri Oct 17 20:59:11 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU And: >BTW, does li`i involve a ce`u too? This is what the refgram gives as the example for li'i: mi morji le li'i mi verba I remember the experience-of (my being-a-child) I suppose one could also say: mi morji le li'i ce'u verba I remember the experience of being a child. But do those say anything different from: {mi morji le du'u mi verba}, and {mi morji le ka ce'u verba} respectively? What exactly does li'i add, if anything? Is it something like: {le li'i broda kei be ko'a} = {le du'u broda e le du'u ko'a cinmo makau dy} Koha's experience of broda = The fact that broda & how koha feels about it. I don't know. co'o mi'e xorxes