Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:28:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711232128.QAA04250@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: How {lo} works X-To: Lojban List To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <199711201835.LAA18933@indra.com> Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 700 X-From-Space-Date: Sun Nov 23 16:28:26 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 bob@MEGALITH.RATTLESNAKE.COM wrote: > If you reject this and say, "this cannot be the case", then you are > forbidding certain procedures associated with {lo}, such as using > different cats in the second test rather than the same cats. Check out section 7 of chapter 6 for a good discussion of this. {mi nelci lo mlatu} is the same as {mi nelci su'o lo ro mlatu}, where {su'o} means one or more, and {ro} means all. That {ro} rules out your idea of having the listener round up a bunch of cats at random to present -- you're very specifically required to round up *all* the cats in the universe. "All" is convenient because it means the set doesn't change every time. Chris