Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 05:32:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711301032.FAA23481@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Ashley Yakeley Sender: Lojban list From: Ashley Yakeley Subject: Re: logical gaffs X-To: Lojban List To: John Cowan Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 734 X-From-Space-Date: Sun Nov 30 05:32:48 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU At 1997-11-29 06:12, Robin Turner wrote: >(h) There's a non-partisan - no, but I really mean this one, that from the >heart in the sense that some things, at least the way I look at this. > George Bush again (Trudeau 1992) This one appears to be plain nonsense. I'm not sure it's even grammatical. I have some more: (i) Pornography is rape. (j) Meat is murder. (k) Abortion is murder. (i) & (j) are on their face category errors, so they must be metonymic if they are to have any meaning at all. I think if you tried to translate any of these three into Lojban, the emotional subterfuge involved would become very obvious. -- Ashley Yakeley, Seattle WA http://www.halcyon.com/ashleyb/