Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:34:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711251534.KAA10101@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: And Rosta Sender: Lojban list From: And Rosta Organization: University of Central Lancashire Subject: Re: do all nu's happen? X-To: LOJBAN@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 887 X-From-Space-Date: Tue Nov 25 10:35:30 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Lojbab: > >> Nor is there a requirement that > >> x2 actually occur, though there has to be an x4 that results if x2 does > >> occur. > > > >Can you give an example? > > > >It seems to me that if x2 needn't actually occur, and x4 needn't > >actually result, then you are necessarily getting into modal > >matters, and you can't just dismiss the stuff I was saying > >about possible worlds without some alternative account (from > >pc, if not from you). > > I think that any time you talk about potential vs actual events, there is > a modal component, whether identified or not. In the case of denpa I > think it embodies a conditional. e.g. Mankind waits for faster-than-light > travel before colonizing the stars (Pardon please for my not doing this into > Lojban - I have guests in for the weekend in numbers approximating LogFest). I agree. My original point still stands. --And