Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:08:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711071408.JAA21998@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: mark.vines@wholefoods.com Sender: Lojban list From: Mark Vines Subject: Re: Beginner question: seitu'a lo velrimni je pemci X-To: LOJBAN@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: Ivan A Derzhanski "Re: Beginner question: seitu'a lo velrimni je pemci" (Nov 7, 3:19pm) X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 765 X-From-Space-Date: Fri Nov 7 09:09:06 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU .i la .ivan. spuda mi di'e > Mark Vines wrote: > > [...] the first sumti, a position I think of as > > the topical. > > Is the notion that x1 is a topic position supported > by the standard? .i mi spuda la .ivan. di'e Not explicitly, as far as I know ... but the notion may be implied by the existence of "bridi-tail" conjunction cmavo, & other points of grammar, such as the effect of {gadri} descriptors, that do appear to "privilege" the x1 position. However, the version of the ma'oste that I keep on my computer at work implies something to the contrary: namely, that a prenex should be used to introduce a topic. So I'm not sure what the standard specifies about topics. Everthemore, I continue to think of the x1 position as topical. co'omi'e markl.