Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 22:49:30 -0500 (EST) release 1.8c) with spool id 5097927 for LANGDEV@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 22:51:26 -0500 22:51:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 21:51:05 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Approved-By: Herman Miller Message-ID: <345bedef.3424287@smtp.io.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 03:49:24 GMT Reply-To: "language developers' discussion" Sender: "language developers' discussion" From: Herman Miller Subject: Re: [LANGDEV] Today's date: Citra (dlozj), kov (relh) To: LANGDEV@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by locke.ccil.org id WAA21991 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 3351 Lines: 74 On Sat, 1 Nov 1997 14:11:13 GMT, "Raymond A. Brown" wrote: >>The 28-day period from October 26 to >>November 22 (in non-leap years) is the Month of the Bat, whose official >>holiday is observed on Citra 6, Bat Day (or Halloween). > >And if you had come a little further south in Mexico, I guess you'd have >gone for Citra 7 (Hallowmas or All Saints) or Citra 8 (All Souls - the "day >of the dead"). You could, of course, get in all three days a bit like the >English/Welsh Christmas where the holiday starts late afternoon on >Christmas Eve & goes through the 25th to the end of the 26th or "Boxing >Day". (I don't think the Scots make so much of the latter- nothing to do >with Mike Tyson & co., BTW, but with Victorian tradesmen collecting their >'Christmas boxes'). I could still make it Citra 7, and it would be on October 31 in leap years. I'll have to think about that. >>Each Jarda holiday >>is also associated with a particular _spaltraz_ (ceremonial tea); the tea >>associated with Bat Day is Lapsang Souchong. > >:-) I like it. Are you going to list the other teas? Well, the spring equinox tea is Irish Breakfast (because of St. Patrick's Day on Hare 2). I haven't yet decided on the others. Of course, I'll have to come up with Jarda names for all the teas as well. >Presumably Jarda day also belongs to no weekday or month. This is the case >with the intercalated leap-year day in the 'International Fixed Calender' >where the day comes after June. 28th. Right, it's just another extra day between the months like the winter solstice. >>Eagle (June 8/7 - July 5/4), Eagle Day = Eag. 28 (July 5/4) > >The bald-headed one, I assume? Naturally. I suppose it might make more sense to create new holidays, rather than borrowing existing ones, but on the other hand, some borrowed holidays like this one suggest a logical animal name for the month. (1776 was a leap year, which is why Eagle Day is Eag. 28 rather than Eag. 27.) I also thought about borrowing non-US holidays, but there are so many of them that I'd have to be very selective. Korean Alphabet Day, on Raccoon 12 (Oct. 9), is one of the days that I'm considering. >>Armadillo (July 6/5 - Aug. 2/1) > >Could call it Frog, with Frog Day = Frog 9 (July 14/13) ;-) I think I'll stick with Armadillo. >>Turkey (Nov. 23 - Dec. 20), Turkey Day = Tur. 3 (Nov. 25) > >Thanks Giving? Over here 'Turkey Day' is 25th Dec. ;-) Right; Thanksgiving is an awkward one, because it's not on a fixed day of the month (it ranges from Nov. 22 to Nov. 28, always on a Thursday), but the name "Turkey Day" (as it is sometimes called) is an obvious animal name for the month. Still, "Month of the Turkey" sounds a bit silly. That's one of the months I might change if I come up with something better. >The Hollowe'en/ Hallowmas festival(s) originated in a Christianization of >the old Celtic Samhaine & your Marmot Day is the Candlemas, a >Christianization of the Celtic Imbolc (Feb. 1st). You thus have two of the >old Celtic quarter days. How about the other two: Beataine (1st May) & >Lunasa (Lammas, 1st August)? It's interesting to note that the Christian >'All Saints' was originally May 1st & was moved to Nov. 1st in 834 AD. That sounds like a good idea, although for some reason it seems odd to associate a Celtic holiday with armadillos.