Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 02:45:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711150745.CAA03987@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Lee Daniel Crocker Sender: Lojban list From: "Lee Daniel Crocker (none)" Organization: Piclab (http://www.piclab.com/) Subject: Re: `at least one ' vrs `one or more' X-To: Lojban Group To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <199711150536.VAA32544@red.colossus.net> from "Thanatos" at Nov 14, 97 09:30:07 pm Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1206 X-From-Space-Date: Sat Nov 15 02:46:00 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU > >I have to agree with Jorge--I got it wrong the first time, and > >that sentence means the former. I should have used {na'e}, since > >I intended the meaning "I dislike some cats". The only way that > >{mi nelci lo mlatu} can be false is if I dislike /all/ cats. > > Shouldn't that be polar negation {to'e nelci} instead? Opposite of > like, rather than something other than like, which might include love, > for example. {to'e nelci} is probably the best way to say "dislike", but I think na'e works in this case as well, even though the English gloss of "other than" doesn't seem quite right; in English, "other-than-like" conjures up different emotions as you point out, but I don't think that's the most natural Lojban interpretation of {na'e nelci}, which more likely refers to points on the like-scale (I could be rather indifferent to some cats, for example, rather than actively disliking them). -- Lee Daniel Crocker "All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC