Date:  Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:15:02 -0500 (EST)
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From: And Rosta <a.rosta@UCLAN.AC.UK>
Organization: University of Central Lancashire
Subject:      Re: veridicality in English
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To: John Cowan <cowan@LOCKE.CCIL.ORG>
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Jorge:
> >I don't accept these as counterexamples. "Veridical/nonveridical"
> >do not mean "true/false". They mean "asserted (by the speaker)
> >to be true/false".
>
> I agree with what I think you meant: They mean "asserted/not
> asserted (by the speaker) to be true".

Yes. Clearly I was in an especially cerebrally flatulent mode
when I wrote that.