Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:49:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711170049.TAA01651@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS Sender: Lojban list From: JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS Subject: Re: Events & sisku [was: le/lo] X-To: lojban To: John Cowan Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 691 X-From-Space-Date: Sun Nov 16 19:49:26 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU la djan spuda di'e la and >Well, actually, "prenu" can mean "is potentially a person"; specifically, >that is "ka'e prenu", but the absence of "ka'e" does not necessary >entail "ca'a", although "ca'a" is often the sensible default. But what kind of thing is "potentially a person"? Are we talking about embryos and the like, or are we talking about abstractions? For example, I could say "I need someone with six hands to do this job". Is {lo mi se nitcu} a {ka'e prenu}? Because that is what we are doing to events. Events that happen, like persons, are objects that endure in space time. Does {ka'e} allow us to include things that don't have endurance in space-time? co'o mi'e xorxes