Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:44:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711140344.WAA02303@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: And Rosta Sender: Lojban list From: And Rosta Organization: University of Central Lancashire Subject: Re: Sarcasm X-To: LOJBAN@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 887 X-From-Space-Date: Thu Nov 13 22:44:24 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU > From: "Lee Daniel Crocker (none)" > While sarcasm is often plainly expressed by the language of a remark > or intonation or facial expression, irony more subtly involves the > context or the situation itself, rather than a specific remark. It > s ironic that William Safire, a well-known misogynist, made "Ms." > acceptable to many newspapers when he used it do describe Geraldine > Ferraro (in his words, he didn't want to "dignify" her maiden name > with the title of "Mrs." because her husband's name was Zaccaro), but > that irony is not any particular remark, but the situation itself. This is sometimes called "dramatic irony" in contrast to "linguistic irony". Context usually makes clear what kind of irony one is talking about, but in areas like narratology, both kinds are relevant, so a terminological distinction is made. --And