Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:35:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712121535.KAA05353@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: ni, jei, perfectionism X-To: a.rosta@UCLAN.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 2439 X-From-Space-Date: Fri Dec 12 10:35:53 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU >As to scanning 10 pages of text, I have instead scanned the >text by you preceded in this message by a single >. > >I found 3 "indirect questions", one a NP and two subordinate >interrogatives Non fictional text, especially of a scholarly subject, would seem likely to have indirect questions. Most Lojban text is fiction, and narrative fiction seems less likely to have such constructions. It is plausible that narrative fiction that descrines mental states would have indirect clauses ("she considered what to do next"), but I don't think much of that is included in the Lojban text so far. > >Is the English text of Saki available online? I'd be willing to >take a look. I thought it was, along with the Lojban, but do not see it in the ftp directory. I am sure that this sort of thing is available in Project Guterbeurg via the Web, along with various other literary texts. >If you happen to have any samples of the parody of logic-talk, >I wouldn't mind seeing them, since I myself feel Lojban might be >the better for a bit more of that sort of thing. I'll try to find some, but will send it to you privately, since I don't want to be accused of copyright violation %^(. Somewhere I have what I consider to be the most egregious piece of pseudo-logic already typed up. I'll see if i can find it. It was entertaining because JCB specifically commented about how well it was expressed, if I recall. >I haven't really bothered studying the loglan texts closely. I >don't know enough of the cmavo, Most all of them have direct Lojban replacements, usually on a one-for-one basis, with essentially identical grammar. >I would like to listen in on those behind the scenes logic >discussions, though. For a while Randall Holmes who is one of the chief logicians for JCB was subscribed to Lojban List and engaged us in sich discussion. The insider discussion however seems reserved for a private list which JCB screens personally to make sure that no LLG spies participate. lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.