Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 05:00:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712171000.FAA17739@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: The design of Lojban X-To: Lojban list To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <877651012.0929049.0@listserv.cuny.edu> Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1911 X-From-Space-Date: Wed Dec 17 05:00:55 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU vecu'u le notci po'u <877651012.0929049.0@listserv.cuny.edu> la JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS cu cusku di'e >And: >>> Lojbab has said that he sometimes sees people as events, so >>> event Lojbab may yet happen to defend it. :) >>I agree with Lojbab here (always surprises me when that happens). >>To my mind, restricting a tersumti to a nu serves only to exclude >>abstract objects like numbers, ka, du`u, and so on. > >Well, I may agree with you. I don't agree that you can have >{le nu broda cu prenu} = "the event of brodaing is a person" >or {lo prenu cu fasnu} = "some person happens". In other >words, {lo'i prenu} and {lo'i fasnu} are disjoint sets. But I do >agree that in general, you can have places that can >be filled both with events and with people: > > mi viska do e le nu do klama le zarci > I see you and your going to the market. > >{le se viska} can equally well be a person or an event. >It is not clear to me why a {bandu} has to be only an event. > >>Colin Fine once did a systematic study of the ontological >>nature of each tersumti of each gismu. I would like to look >>this up. Would anyone happen to know whether it is archived, >>and how one might find it? > >Did he ever actually do the study? I remember his discussions >of the categories he would use, but I don't know whether he >actually went ahead with it. > > co'o mi'e xorxes I did some fragments. I can see if I can find any of the work. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Colin Fine 66 High Ash, Shipley, W Yorks. BD18 1NE, UK | | Tel: 01274 592696/0976 635354 e-mail: colin@kindness.demon.co.uk | | "Don't just do something! Stand there!" | | - from 'Behold the Spirit' (workshop) | -----------------------------------------------------------------------