Date: Mon Dec 1 03:40:13 1997 Message-Id: <199712010840.DAA29756@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: dacti X-To: jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Status: RO Content-Length: 1469 Lines: 30 >>Indeed, I >>think "object enduring in space time" excludes anything without physical >>bounds and structure (is a gas, plasma, or liquid an object? lo dacti?). > > >Then you definitely need to be more clear. Is the sun a dacti? Is the earth >a dacti? Is a mountain a dacti? Is a cloud a dacti? I would have said yes >to all of those, but now you make me doubt, because I probably wouldn't >call them "objects" in English in the more restricted sense of things that >you can handle. Is dacti supposed to be so restricted? I don't know. I suspect that my default was the English definition. I would be probne to clrifying it bty trying to identify properties that "things" have (boundedness in space? and time?) It might have been added as a contrast to "abstraction" sucta. I am certainly open to clarifying ideas and wording, since what we have is obvious so vague as to be meaningless - I had never imagined an abstraction as being an object. Or we can leave it as is and let Lojban usage put a meaning on it. lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.