Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 04:07:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712140907.EAA00785@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: ka'e X-To: jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1027 X-From-Space-Date: Sun Dec 14 04:07:45 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU >>Is there something wrong with subjectivity? > >Not with subjectivity in itself. I'm uncomfortable with {ka'e} being >defined in such a subjective manner that I can't tell what it means. >I don't understand how {lo remna ka'e vofli} can be false while >{lo remna ca'a vofli} is true. The elliptical x2 in the former is likely to be different than in the latter. This is because we tend to interpret innateness based on independent properties. Whereas if someone says the latter with truthful intent, they are referring to a situation where an associative aid is being used. lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.