Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:38:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712030138.UAA13076@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS Sender: Lojban list From: JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS Subject: Re: GLI Re: do all nu's happen? X-To: lojban To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1111 Lines: 31 And: >> le nu le bolci cu farlu le loldi co'a fasnu >> The ball's falling to the floor started to happen. > >If x2 of farlu is the endpoint of a path that need only be >partially traversed, then this is not a problematic example >even if "nu" means "actual event". Well, if that is the case then a better English gloss might be "x1 falls towards x2". Also in that case {le nu le bolci cu farlu le loldi cu mulno} = "The ball's falling to the floor is complete", would not require that the ball end up in the floor, which is kind of against what I would expect. >But otherwise, the x2 of farlu must actually be reached, why >would you choose to say "farlu le toldi"? It might be relevant to the situation: le nu lei sicni cu farlu lei mi xance cu cfari i ku'i da jgari sy The coins' falling into my hands started to happen, but someone caught them. The interesting thing was that they'd end up in my hand, not that they were on their way there. I now think that a {ca'a nu} has to be a {ka'e fasnu}. That would seem to agree with usage, wouldn't it? co'o mi'e xorxes