Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:15:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712271615.LAA21209@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: knowledge and belief X-To: jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1485 X-From-Space-Date: Sat Dec 27 11:15:15 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU >If I say: > > la sokrates djuno le du'u la djan klama le zarci kei ko'a > Socrates knows that John went to the market by epistemology A. > >Does that require me to believe this: > > le du'u la djan klama le zarci cu jetnu ko'a > That John goes to the market is true by epistemology A. I don't think so. I think that it entails that you know le du'u la djan klama le zarci cu jetnu ko'e That John goes to the market is true by epistemology B. where B is some indication of "by authority of Socrates", whatever the particular means you have in order to make the claim that Socrates knows about John. For example, Galileo knows that a feather and a cannonball fall at the same rate, by epistemology of experimnentation at Pisa. I know that a feather and a cannonball fall at the same rate, by epistemology of cultural legend about Galileo's experiment at the leaning tower. But I cannot claim that >I< know by the experimentation directly since I did not do or observe any such experiment. lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.