Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 13:47:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712241847.NAA07903@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" Sender: Lojban list From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" Subject: Re: xor questions (was Re: indirect Qs (was Re: On logji lo X-To: lojban To: John Cowan Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1374 X-From-Space-Date: Wed Dec 24 13:47:19 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Lojbab: >In one breath you guys are asserting that you would not believe me if >I said there are people who know that Christ was born on Christmas Day, If you say that (in English or the equivalent Spanish), then I will understand that you believe that Christ was born on Christmas day, unless you make the word "know" stand out in a special way, so you would not be using it with its usual meaning. The question about {djuno} need not hinge on the English, but it would seem that asserting {da djuno de fo di} would require one to believe that {de jetnu di}. >while here you are asserting that anyone would find "a Latin" as >acceptable answer to ""Is it Cicero or Caesar who is the author ..." Whoever asserted that? We were discussing a Lojban question, not an English one, and I'm not sure what you mean by "acceptable" here. Do you mean "a grammatically correct answer", "a true answer", "a helpful answer", or something else? >As for "du" - it is supposed to be mathematical equality. >"1" != "an integer" in mathematics. Why do you use quotes? "1" != "2-1" either, if by using quotes you mean the text. On the other hand, you can't possibly mean that it is not the case that there is some integer x such that 1 = x. If you ask {li pa du ma}, then there are many true answers: {lo namcu}, {le se mitre be le mi jubme}, {li re vu'u pa}, etc. co'o mi'e xorxes