Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:29:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801022229.RAA14090@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Rob Zook Sender: Lojban list From: Rob Zook Subject: Re: Knowledge and Belief X-To: LOJBAN@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <199801012014.MAA09369@gateway.informix.com> Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1028 X-From-Space-Date: Fri Jan 2 17:29:24 1998 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU At 12:14 PM 1/1/98 -0800, Ashley Yakeley wrote: >At 1998-01-01 13:00, Mark Vines wrote: > >>"The catcher knows that the pitcher threw the ball." >> >>Steven has suggested replacing {ba'o} with {mo'u}, >>which might be better. He has also suggested replacing >>{djuno} with {sidbo} & {du'u} with {nu}, which I think >>is ridiculous; in my scenario, I *saw* the catcher >>catching the pitch, so I feel justified in saying that >>the catcher *knows* that the pitch happened. > >Right. As it's 'justified true belief', you _know_ that the catcher knows >that the pitch happened. If I see a catcher catch a pitch, I know what I see, not what goes on inside anothers head. The catcher's knowing remains unavailable until she decides to share it, unless one could build an argument that the catcher probably knows something based on secondary external evidence. Rob Z. -------------------------------------------------------- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx