Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801142313.SAA27090@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" Sender: Lojban list From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" Subject: Re: knowledge and belief X-To: lojban To: John Cowan X-UIDL: 1b29548843e88f6aa6fffa7aa3c39efe X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 726 X-From-Space-Date: Thu Jan 15 12:50:06 1998 X-From-Space-Address: - Lojbab: >>> It ain't what you don't know that worries me; >>> it's what you do know that ain't so. >> >>That's an indirect question. > >I disagree. These are >ledo na/na'e se djuno >and ledo se djuno You're right. Chris pointed that out as well. I take it that you agree with the rest of my comments, since this is the only one you objected? It's interesting that in both examples where presupposition of truth breaks down, "everything you know is wrong" and "what you know that ain't so", the fact known is not made explicit. Also, they could be reworded as "everything you think you know is wrong" and "what you think you know that ain't so", losing in snappiness but making the meaning more clear. co'o mi'e xorxes