Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:52:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801140052.TAA14582@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: knowledge and belief X-To: lojban To: John Cowan X-UIDL: 88b93b5fb310cc09ec659fe51c76abcb X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 795 X-From-Space-Date: Wed Jan 14 10:41:46 1998 X-From-Space-Address: - Markl: >> It ain't what you don't know that worries me; >> it's what you do know that ain't so. >> - several sources Xorxes: >That's an indirect question. I disagree with this one: the presupposition is that "you know things = that aren't so". It's akin to "everything you know is wrong". It strikes me that Markl went looking for clever literary uses of = "know", and in his list, pe'i, only a few of them really violate Xorxes' = rule. Grep through an online book or something for a more random sample = of "know" and I strongly believe that you'll find Xorxes is right in = general. "Everything you know is wrong" and the example above, are = interesting "quotable" sentences precisely because they violate the norm = in search of a jarring rhetorical effect. =20 co'o mi'e kris