Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 04:57:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801140957.EAA01199@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: knowledge and belief X-To: jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-UIDL: 1c9db8c8c92edc81c60960996e2cd373 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1379 X-From-Space-Date: Wed Jan 14 10:44:04 1998 X-From-Space-Address: - >> It ain't what you don't know that worries me; >> it's what you do know that ain't so. >> - several sources > >That's an indirect question. I disagree. These are ledo na/na'e se djuno and ledo se djuno or without the possessive le n/na'e se djuno be do le se djuno be do >>In each of these English examples, we remain uncertain >>about either the content of the known, &or the accuracy >>of that content, &or the truth of the claim that the >>content really is known to the person or persons >>identified as knowing it. > >All that we're discussing is whether the claimant >presupposes the truth of what is supposedly known. >In all those cases except in "all you know is wrong" >I find that there is a presupposition of truth. presupposition is a valid epistemology, BTW (valid in the sense that it can be used to fill the epistemology place, not necessarily that I consider presupposition to always yield truth). lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.