Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:19:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801021519.KAA00923@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: mark.vines@wholefoods.com Sender: Lojban list From: Mark Vines Subject: Re: Knowledge and Belief X-To: LOJBAN@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: Steven Belknap "Re: Knowledge and Belief" (Jan 1, 2:54pm) Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 613 X-From-Space-Date: Fri Jan 2 10:19:03 1998 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU la stivn. cusku di'e > There is church down the street from me where > parishioners saw a statue of Mary weeping. They *know* > that this happened, because they saw it with their own > eyes. The senses are fallible. la markl. spuda la stivn. di'e The senses are fallible, but they are not always wrong! Pragmatically speaking, extraordinary claims may require extraordinary evidence, but ordinary claims are often accepted casually. Is it really so hard to believe that the pitcher at a baseball game has thrown a pitch? Is it really so outrageous to say that the catcher *knows* the pitch has been thrown?