Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:14:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801211714.MAA28872@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: And Rosta Sender: Lojban list From: And Rosta Organization: University of Central Lancashire Subject: Re: fuzzy bears X-To: LOJBAN@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-UIDL: 57793bbfd7615e75a09b472b62a27ff9 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1245 X-From-Space-Date: Wed Jan 21 12:10:12 1998 X-From-Space-Address: - Rik: > And to Steven: > >> > >> > >> "One or more of the things which are fuzzily 4/7 really bears > creates the > >> story." > > > >This means that only 4/7 of a bear exists: all beardom amounts to > >no more than 4/7 of an individual bear. > > I don't recall a conclusion to the "universe of discourse" discussion > (it may have just drifted away). Would this mean *all* of beardom, or > just all of beardom within the universe of discourse? What if we are > talking about half a pie ("I just want half a piece"), or a half dollar > coin. It means that all of beardom collectively amounts to 4/7 of a bear. "All of beardom" is, in my book, the same thing as "All of beardom within the universe of discourse". {lo ci rorci be me} asserts that I have just two parents [do I mean rorci? rirni? I forget]. {lo pi mu rorci be mi} asserts that I have just half a parent. Everything that is a parent of mine amounts, collectively, in total, to just half a parent. Whatever that means. Half a piece of pie is {pi mu lo}, not {lo pi mu}. But my lunch, which consisted of half a pie [excuse the didactically- motivated falsehood], could be referred to as lo pi mu poi mi ca citka ke`a ku`o ku --And