Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:18:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801231618.LAA05216@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: mark.vines@wholefoods.com Sender: Lojban list From: Mark Vines Subject: Re: knowledge and belief X-To: LOJBAN@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU To: John Cowan X-UIDL: 6d2ee870e39ae1d9ddfe20ce645f9e5f X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 431 X-From-Space-Date: Fri Jan 23 12:26:18 1998 X-From-Space-Address: - coi doi lobypli Okay, Jorge has persuaded me that I've been interpreting the concept of "presupposition" too narrowly. Given the broader interpretation that he & perhaps the rest of you had in mind, an interpretation which embraces uncertain, ironical & lying presuppositions as well as the ordinary kind, I have this to say: I was wrong; Jorge is right about what it means to "know" something. Let's move on! co'omi'e markl.