Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:53:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802272353.SAA17068@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" Sender: Lojban list From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" Subject: Re: Summary so far on DJUNO X-To: lojban To: John Cowan X-UIDL: efba26b35d8fc8af5954ed63ca882e40 Status: O X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 X-From-Space-Date: Mon Mar 02 13:41:26 1998 X-From-Space-Address: - Lojbab: >It is not true in the "Real world" but it is true under the metaphysics of >the universe of discourse. I can know that Sherlock Holmes lives on >Baker Street using the epistemology of A.C> Doyle's works, even while >knowing that Sherlock Holmes doesn't live anywhere by some other >epistemologies. Indeed. > So what is "true"? What do I "know"? I think that any >definition of "know" which does not allow me to say that "I can know that >Sherlock Holmes lives on Baker Street using the epistemologyof A.C> >Doyle's works" is not standard English. Right. But the true-x2 definition does of course allow you to say that. What the true-x2 definition does not allow you to say is: "I know that Sherlock Holmes lives on Wall Street using the epistemology of A.C." (Well, you're allowed to say it, but it would be false. Under your definition it could be true.) co'o mi'e xorxes