Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:30:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802240330.WAA01440@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: Summary so far on DJUNO X-To: lojban To: John Cowan X-UIDL: ba4947a9861d7be33faa84cd02814d09 X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 X-From-Space-Date: Tue Feb 24 09:51:49 1998 X-From-Space-Address: - la erik ba'o cusku di'e >I'm sorry if this muddies the waters further, but what would djuno mean >if any requirement of truth of the predication was divorced from x2? I guess that would mean: x1 knows that x2 would be true of x3 by epistemology x4 ...Interesting; if you elide x4, we'd assume "the obvious epistemology", which in most contexts would probably be both the speaker's AND x1's epistemology, making x2 effectively true for purposes of conversation. If Doug is a Buddhist studying Christian philosophy for purely academic reasons, his teacher might say {la dag. djuno lenu la xriso cu di'a jmive} (Doug "djuno" that christ was resurrected), meaning that he understands that point of philosophy without necessarily believing it. But outside of that special context, one would probably assume Doug was a Christian. chris