Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804151335.JAA17416@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: Questions about Lojban X-To: lojban To: John Cowan X-UIDL: 766922f69f701fcfc8fb600ec209437b X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Status: RO Content-Length: 3772 Lines: 65 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6857.07279540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, la deivyd rasditc,r cu preti la'edi'u: >Does Lojban clarify thinking and improve communication? That's the $64,000 question. My opinion: learning *any* language clarifies thinking and improves communication. Learning Lojban using the existing materials requires reading and thinking about a lot of issues in logic and language, and I think you can't help but learn something about it all along the way. Whether the language itself, as learned in a more "natural" way, would have any particular effect, no one knows. >Thanks in advance. --David R. Are you *the* David Rosdietcher? The busker? If so, I've talked to you when we were juggling in the fieldhouse in Boulder. Welcome to Lojbanistan! ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6857.07279540 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IioNAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQmAAQAhAAAARjNCMkZDMDEyNkNGRDExMUFGNkIyMDI1MDRDMTAw MDAA/wYBBYADAA4AAADOBwQADwAKAAsACgADAAoBASCAAwAOAAAAzgcEAA8ACgALAAwAAwAMAQEE kAYAQAEAAAEAAAAOAAAAAwAAMAAAAAALAA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAQwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1u AN0BD1QCAAAAACdsb2piYW4nAFNNVFAAbG9qYmFuQGN1dm1iLmNjLmNvbHVtYmlhLmVkdQAAHgAC MAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAAMwAQAAAB0AAABsb2piYW5AY3V2bWIuY2MuY29sdW1iaWEuZWR1 AAAAAB4AATABAAAACQAAACdsb2piYW4nAAAAAAIB9g8BAAAABAAAAAAAAAADABUMAQAAAAIBCzAB AAAAIgAAAFNNVFA6TE9KQkFOQENVVk1CLkNDLkNPTFVNQklBLkVEVQAAAB4AIDoBAAAACQAAACds b2piYW4nAAAAAAsAQDoBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAADAAA5AAAAAAMAcToAAAAAGDYBDYAEAAIAAAACAAIA AQSAAQAbAAAAUkU6IFF1ZXN0aW9ucyBhYm91dCBMb2piYW4AbQkBA5AGAOAFAAAcAAAACwAjAAAA AAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkAAGe79W9ovQEeAHAAAQAAABsAAABSRTogUXVl c3Rpb25zIGFib3V0IExvamJhbgAAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAb1ob/W2EZIzvdRjEdGMIABgsGczhQAA HgAeDAEAAAADAAAARVgAAB4AHwwBAAAAKwAAAC9PPUdDQkEvT1U9REVTR0NCQS9DTj1SRUNJUElF TlRTL0NOPUNIUklTQgAAAwAZQAAAAAACAQkQAQAAAPgCAAD0AgAA3gQAAExaRnWWR9Ji/wAKAQ8C FQKkA+QF6wKDAFATA1QCAGNoCsBzZXTuMgYABsMCgzIDxgcTAoMyMxMPZjQDxQIAcHJCcRIic3Rl bQKAfRcKgAjPCdk7F58yNTUPAoAKgQ2xC2BuZzExvDI3FVALChQiDAFjAEBwIEhpLAqFCoULYCAB DbBpdnlkIHJhQHNkaXRjLAXAY6x1IBXwEgBpHZEnCYCwaSd1OhttFfBvFnBuYwVACocbjz4gDyEU RIJvB5EgTG9qYgORhmMLYAaBeSB0aAuA8msLgGcgAHAeIAdwIPFMdmUe0ANwbXUDAGN2YR9AAiA/ IX8L4h0mVDkRwHQnBCAl4CcQJDbINCwwKtAgcQpQFmCVJ9EuJNBNJcBvcAuAdSfROh02ZQrAAwAm QSoZAHB5Kh2RGqB1YWd/JxElcwiQKjImDweRJzsu7QqFTCz2JPV1AJAmQSpS/GV4BAAfQCZBAMAW cAcitwQgF6ArEGkXoDRiYR5w/yZFLwcKhQGgCGAFQB2wFzD5BUBvZiagBBArISagA6BdFzBnJ5Am Yy3WLCZjSbku9CB5CGAe0ABwJwVAYSpgbHAgYjcALHog/nMDcBIALxEmUTbjHoAmYB5sAyAHQAIg MvR3YXn9K5FXKmAqUQXAKlIt1x6A+RHwbGYcth5QLNQJgDgixx2wBGAXoCAibiewCHCtB0AiPlI5 gHcIYGweIP8RwCcBLYEfAArAH0Ae4CVxzzNADdAhMTmAbm8r4EFg5QqFa0VQd3MrkSgfIK9/Ru8i z0fKKeEvMDgTNTB2iQBwY2UrkC0tREOg+mkeIFIxNiiPTZ8cJQcQuycQOmIqKlEtsEz1bx5h9xIA EbAEkD8k0CngJxA7UHRza1JDSTegPFA5gEn2JycBAZBsUwA1sUVgOmHtCoV3KmADoHc+QQSQJxDg anVnZ2wmMjgxKlK7LrFDYGgIYBHwOCJCQ0L/BJA+kjsQJzFUAUVgJPQzcS0AcCEKhRbBAFrQAwD9 P+QEAAADAPE/CQQAAAIB+T8BAAAARwAAAAAAAADcp0DIwEIQGrS5CAArL+GCAQAAAAAAAAAvTz1H Q0JBL09VPURFU0dDQkEvQ049UkVDSVBJRU5UUy9DTj1DSFJJU0IAAB4A+D8BAAAADQAAAENocmlz IEJvZ2FydAAAAAACAfs/AQAAAEcAAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgAKy/hggEAAAAAAAAAL089R0NC QS9PVT1ERVNHQ0JBL0NOPVJFQ0lQSUVOVFMvQ049Q0hSSVNCAAAeAPo/AQAAAA0AAABDaHJpcyBC b2dhcnQAAAAAQAAHMOiXQOlvaL0BQAAIMJ6CuvZvaL0BHgA1EAEAAAAwAAAAPDkzNjM3MDMyMzU0 QkQxMTE4QkMyMDA2MEIwNjczMzg1MDRBQ0BERVNHQ0JBMT4AAwAGEKTu+usDAAcQPAIAAAMAEBAA AAAAAwAREAEAAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABISSxMQURFSVZZRFJBU0RJVEMsUkNVUFJFVElMQUVESVU6 RE9FU0xPSkJBTkNMQVJJRllUSElOS0lOR0FORElNUFJPVkVDT01NVU5JQ0FUSU9OP1RIQVRTVEhF JDY0LDAwMFFVAAAAAAMADTT9PwAAAgEUNAEAAAAQAAAAVJShwCl/EBulhwgAKyolFx4APQABAAAA BQAAAFJFOiAAAAAADYo= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6857.07279540--