Date:  Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:14:56 -0500 (EST)
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" <jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR>
Subject:      Re: Lojban ML: Syllogism and sophism
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To: John Cowan <cowan@LOCKE.CCIL.ORG>
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Lionel:
>   Plus il y a de gruyere, plus il y a de trous.
>   Plus il y a de trous, moins il y a de gruyere.
>
>   The more gruyere, the more holes.
>   The more holes, the less gruyere.
 >
>Can you see any Lojban short expression for these propositions that would
>pop up the difference?

I can think of a somewhat long expression:

    ro cirlrgruiera cu zenba le ka xokauda kevna ce'u kei
    va'o le nu jmina cy lo cirlrgruiera
    "Every gruyere is increased in how many holes it has
    when some gruyere is added to it."

    ro cirlrgruiera cu jdika le ka ce'u klani li xokau kei
    va'o le nu jmina cy lo kevna
    "Every gruyere is decreased in how much of it there is
    when some holes are added to it."

co'o mi'e xorxes