Received: from spooler by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 25 May 98 02:24:20 +0000 Return-path: Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.6) by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 25 May 98 02:24:13 +0000 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 895884477:20:05427:0; Sat, 23 May 98 00:47:57 GMT Received: from listserv.cuny.edu ([128.228.100.10]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005402; 23 May 98 0:47 GMT Received: from listserv (listserv.cuny.edu) by listserv.cuny.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <3.FF9C9FBA@listserv.cuny.edu>; Fri, 22 May 1998 20:49:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:45:03 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Guides to learning gismu X-To: chris@ACTRIX.GEN.NZ X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <895884474.205402.0@listserv.cuny.edu> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 7 Content-Length: 1662 Lines: 34 >Are there any audio samples of spoken lojban available? We're working on it (or I should say Veijo Vilva is). He is attempting to put our old cassette recording online. >I've >tried using LogFlash but I find that it is incredibly difficult for me to >remember the large number of gismu that flash by and the next time I sit >down to do a session I've forgotten them all! 1) Skip to "Gaining Control" mode - the New Word Review Mode does not serve the purpose we intended. 2) LogFlash is designed to be used daily, or as close to daily as possible, especially the first time through the words. 3) Experience has shown that you will indeed have lots of trouble the first time through the words, but that on later times through the words each successive pass tends to cut your error rate approximately in half. Thus if you get 50% on a New Word Lesson, you will likely get around 50% on your Drop Back Lesson as well (s9ince you don't know the words), but then 75% on the Recog 1 pile and 87.5% on the Recog 2 pile. If you do somewhat worse on your New Word pile, the percentages adjust downward somewhat. You will likely find that you have to limit the size of a DropBack lesson, but the words that make it up to the top of the ladder you will remember much better (especially for recognition). lojbab