Received: from spooler by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 11 May 98 20:56:20 +0000 Return-path: Received: from punt-20.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.14) by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 11 May 98 20:56:16 +0000 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 894876841:12:03054:1; Mon, 11 May 98 08:54:01 GMT Received: from listserv.cuny.edu ([128.228.100.10]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1524843; 11 May 98 8:54 GMT Received: from listserv (listserv.cuny.edu) by listserv.cuny.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <3.FF9C020A@listserv.cuny.edu>; Mon, 11 May 1998 4:55:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 04:52:25 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: software available on ftp site (soon on Web site?) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <894876840.1524843.0@listserv.cuny.edu> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 7 Content-Length: 2845 Lines: 55 In response to the query about lujvo software, I have uploaded to the Digex ftp site Nora's lujvo-making program, and the last-made version of the random sentence generator. I believe that the lujvo-making program has all current rafsi, and should work well on MS-DOS machines. Not having used it in ages, I believe that it has several options: parse lujvo build lujvo from gismu or English keyword drill with random lujvo-making problems The random sentence generator does exactly what it says - generates usually-nonsensical but grammatical Lojban sentences. Except for one important caveat - the grammar it is based on was version 2.8 and thus is missing many of the minor changes made in the past few years before the baseline. Thus it is likely that on the more complex sentences it will generate not-quite-grammatical Lojban. The version of the grammar it uses is included in the .zip file, and I think that with some input command it will tell you how IT parses the monstrosity. There are 6 levels of language complexity provided, if I recall, with each including a larger subset of the grammar, and allowing a hhigher chance of complex constructs instead of simple ones. In theory the random sentence generator could and should be updated to the baseline grammar. The files it uses are English-readable and editable. Butthe process is extremely tedious and error prone, even with a helper program that Nora has which ensures that no loose ends are left. Someday I'll get it up to the current grammar. In the meantime, it will probably serve some use. WE nominally seel these programs as Shareware for $10 each and welcome contributions. Indeed any excuse you can come up with to contribute money would be helpful - we still need somewhat more than $10000 to break even and enable publication of a Lojban dictionary. URL for the two programs are ftp://ftp.access.digex.net/pub/access/lojbab/software/lujvomak.zip ftp://ftp.access.digex.net/pub/access/lojbab/software/rndsnt28.zip lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.