Received: from spooler by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 21 May 98 22:09:04 +0000 Return-path: Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.6) by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 21 May 98 22:09:02 +0000 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 895749824:12:29462:0; Thu, 21 May 98 11:23:44 GMT Received: from listserv.cuny.edu ([128.228.100.10]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005131; 21 May 98 11:23 GMT Received: from listserv (listserv.cuny.edu) by listserv.cuny.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.FFFE9537@listserv.cuny.edu>; Thu, 21 May 1998 7:24:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:22:47 +0200 Reply-To: Lionel Bonnetier Sender: Lojban list From: Lionel Bonnetier Subject: Re: lo sidbo cu na fuzme... X-To: Lojban ML To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <895749780.205131.0@listserv.cuny.edu> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 7 Content-Length: 1523 Lines: 38 I wrote: > >I have a correction and a question on what I wrote: > >> i uu lo prenu cu na fuzme le se cinmo poi catke ra le sidbo > > > >The correction: I should have used "noi" rather than "poi", since the > >relative bridi comes as an additional information, not as a way of picking > >up some "cinmo" among the whole of them. Jorge replied: > Could you explain what you mean by the relative clause? I suppose > {ra} stands for the person, then: "It is not the case that some person > is responsible for the emotion, which pushes the person on the idea"? > I think you must mean something different, do you mean the emotions > that the idea generates on the person? Your first guess was right. I wanted to stress that while "No idea is responsible for its believer", it is still hard to set the responsability on the believer, since ideas are kind of crystalized behaviors, and I think behavior is emotion-driven. Thus: "No one is responsible for his emotions, the very ones that drive him to his ideas (however foolish they can be)." Maybe: uu ro prenu na fuzme lo nu cinmo noi catke ra lo sidbo Thank you. Lionel Lionel Bonnetier Ph: +33 478 601 862