Received: from spooler by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 23 Aug 98 21:15:24 +0000 Return-path: Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.34) by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 23 Aug 98 21:15:18 +0000 Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 903746389:10:01903:7; Sat, 22 Aug 98 00:39:49 GMT Received: from listserv.cuny.edu ([128.228.100.10]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1107920; 22 Aug 98 0:39 GMT Received: from listserv (listserv.cuny.edu) by listserv.cuny.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.FE9AF0B0@listserv.cuny.edu>; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 20:39:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 21:30:15 -0300 Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" Sender: Lojban list From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" Subject: Re: A First Words in Lojban X-To: lojban To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <903746343.117920.0@listserv.cuny.edu> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 7 1 Y00A9C.CNM Content-Length: 1040 Lines: 30 cu'u la djifut >You can use the "ka'a" modal tag, which comes from "klama"; "se ka'a" >means "to destination": > > mi cecla lo rokci se ka'a le do stedu > I launch a rock towards your head The trouble with this is that the head is not the se klama of the throw. You would not say: le nu mi cecla lo rokci cu klama le do stedu My launching of a rock goes towards your head. You could attach the {se ka'a} tag to the rock, though: mi cecla lo rokci pe seka'a le do stedu I launch a rock which has your head as destination. It is the rock, not the launching, that travels towards the head. At least that's how I see it. co'o mi'e xorxes