Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1998 03:23:58 +0200
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Subject:      Re: word frequency list coming
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Translation follows.

> By Phonographer, I am specifically looking for someone who is familiar enough
 with
> the sounds of phonemes in various languages to provide an authoritative
> pronunciation of lojban words.

.i mi na'e birti ledu'u tu'a so'i bansnaci'e je seldju cu nibli lo lojbo
bansnaci'e nundju
.i.i'a mi selsau le bangu po'e mi zi'e po la xrvatsk. no'u la kro,eicas.
.e le glibau .e le kaurjugbau
.i mi cilre ji'a le dizdo'oban gi'e blesau so'o drata

> Alternately, I would like someone who has been
> speaking it conversationally with others.

.i lego'i na du mi
.i mi paroi tavla fo la lojban.
.i to go'i la nitcion. .e la .i,n. .e ma .o'anairo'a toi

> I have an excellent understanding of
> phonetics, but want an expert opinion on how this should all sound (especially
 the
> 'x').  I intend to mimic the pronunciation myself for the actual language
 tape, so
> the sound quality is unimportant in what I receive.

.i mi na certu
gi'eku'i ka'e .a'o sidju
.i ru'a xagrau falenu loji'a drata cu benji tu'a ri

> Once we have the word list, I will produce a list of the top 400 and mail said
 list
> to anyone who wants to help.  This could even be split up.  Transfer of the
 wavs to
> me could be problematic because of their size, but we'll cross that bridge
 when we
> come to it.

.i li'a lei vreji ka'e ke'urdatni ja kamxau jdika

> Unless the speaker is well studied in the field of phonetics, I would
> like a second individual to review the wavs and make any commentary on the
 presented
> pronunciation, again on a volunteer basis.  I would be a damn shame if I put
> together a beginner's language tape coached by someone with a colloquial 'o'.

.i .iesai

> Incidentally, how would you say "until next time"?

.i la'edi'u na'e logji jeku'i fadni selsku
.i ma smuni ri
.i lu pu'o le bavla'i li'u ka'e xe vlafanva
gi'eku'i ka'e smuni du'eda sai
.i zo co'o sa'u cu fadni

co'o mi'e. goran.


I'm not sure how being familiar with sound system of many other
languages would help knowing about the lojban one. Anyway, I'm familiar
with Croatian, which is my native language, and with English and
Mandarin Chinese. I learn Dutch, and know something about some other
languages.

That's not me. I only spoke lojban once, with Nick and Iain and...
someone else (sorry, can't remember).

I'm no expert, but I hope I can help. It would be best, I think, if some
others send theirs, too.

Obviously, the recordings can be recorded at lesser quality, and
compressed.

Sure.

That's not really a logical expression, but an idiom. What does it
*mean*? A word-for-word translation could be "in anticipation of the
next one in the future", but that is *so* vague. Just co'o is usual.