Received: from spooler by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 27 Oct 98 22:57:46 +0000 Return-path: Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.34) by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 27 Oct 98 22:57:39 +0000 Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 909498365:10:05451:1; Tue, 27 Oct 98 14:26:05 GMT Received: from listserv.cuny.edu ([128.228.100.10]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1111999; 27 Oct 98 14:25 GMT Received: from listserv (listserv.cuny.edu) by listserv.cuny.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <3.FFA7BBBC@listserv.cuny.edu>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 9:27:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:19:41 +0000 Reply-To: George Foot Sender: Lojban list From: George Foot Subject: Re: Another Turkish proverb X-To: Lojban List To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <909498357.1111999.0@listserv.cuny.edu> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 7 1 Y052ED.CNM Content-Length: 1507 Lines: 46 la robin cusku zoi kuot > bicrsakta > x1 is a quantity of honey from source x2 of composition x3 > > "bicrsakta" sounds really awful, so I'd be grateful if anyone has > created or could create a better lujvo. kuot i mi spuda fi zoi kuot I think it's actually wrong (not just bad-sounding). You're meant to use `r' or `n' hyphens only to ensure that there is a pair of consonants within the first five (non-`y') letters, IIRC. Use a `y' hyphen instead and it sounds better: "bicysakta". Analogous to "ticysakta", an example in the gismu list (for sugar-substitute, in the entry for "sakta"). Alternatively if you prefer you could use the slightly longer "bifcysakta" but this is possibly less preferable. Maybe it would be worth specifying the type of bee in the place structure? Perhaps doing so would make the source redundant -- I don't know. kuot co'o mi'e djordj fa'o (I wonder whether this is the correct way to lay out mixed language text? Nobody else seems to bother too much, but I thought I might as well try.) -- george.foot@merton.oxford.ac.uk xu do tavla fo la lojban -- http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/lojban.html