Received: from spooler by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 16 Oct 98 22:57:13 +0000 Return-path: Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.6) by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 16 Oct 98 22:57:08 +0000 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 908423739:20:27693:2; Thu, 15 Oct 98 03:55:39 GMT Received: from listserv.cuny.edu ([128.228.100.10]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114221; 15 Oct 98 3:55 GMT Received: from listserv (listserv.cuny.edu) by listserv.cuny.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0008A460@listserv.cuny.edu>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:56:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:51:45 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: vals,r,tesoroso X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <908423708.2114221.0@listserv.cuny.edu> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 7 1 Y00814.CNM Content-Length: 1599 Lines: 31 >A thesaurus would help in learning vocubulary. The latest Lojban >thesaurus I have found was written in 1991. It is incomplete, Incomplete? How so? There are likely a few words missing, but hardly enough to bother most people. The numbering is according to a asystem that Athelstan developed. I amy be able to find something written on it. The problem withg a thesaurus of Lojban is the place structures. the thesaurus classification done in 1989-91 was based primarily on the x1 place and not on the gismyu itself. You end up classifying words based on their keyword, and not on their true meaning. For example, all words that have a "by stanndard" place should be in the same thesaurus group in Lojban based on that place, evne though they are all manner of different concepts. But from the standard point of view, they are all similar, and when you subdivide by type of standard, you can get some fine gradations. these will likely be quite different from the English-based groupings. In any event, I don't think that the old thesaurus is especially bad. I doubt that there is much that we would change if it were redone today. I'll se if I can find info on how we did the thesaurus. I know it was mostl;y based on the original Roget. lojbab