Received: from spooler by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 1 Dec 98 22:24:19 +0000 Return-path: Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.34) by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 1 Dec 98 22:24:18 +0000 Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 912504849:10:22477:11; Tue, 01 Dec 98 09:34:09 GMT Received: from pop.onelist.com ([209.207.164.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1126254; 1 Dec 98 9:33 GMT Received: (qmail 29658 invoked by alias); 1 Dec 1998 09:33:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29653 invoked from network); 1 Dec 1998 09:33:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO access5.digex.net) (205.197.245.196) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 1998 09:33:36 -0000 Received: (from lojbab@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA29797; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 04:33:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 04:33:27 -0500 (EST) From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199812010933.EAA29797@access5.digex.net> To: robin@Bilkent.EDU.TR Cc: lojban@onelist.com Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lojban] Re: X-files X-PMFLAGS: 34078848 7 1 Y04235.CNM Content-Length: 1136 Lines: 24 From: Logical Language Group While the book lists only one IPA symbol corresponding to x, the description given is "unvoiced velar fricative". If there are other sounds besides German "Bach" that meet this description, they could also be used. Themorphology rules for x presume that it is unvoiced, so a voiced velar fricative could cause problems (e.g. the q in Moammar Qaddafi). having the frciative further back in the throat as in Arabic glottals might or might not work - I cannot say since I can't make the sounds. Probably both the German sounds in "ich" and "ach" would work. I am not sure that either of them is described with a different symbol from /x/. lojbab ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com