Received: from spooler by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 21 Dec 98 00:24:39 +0000 Return-path: Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.34) by stryx.demon.co.uk (Mercury/32 v2.01); 21 Dec 98 00:24:30 +0000 Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 914194870:10:06848:1; Sun, 20 Dec 98 23:01:10 GMT Received: from pop.onelist.com ([209.207.164.209]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1006575; 20 Dec 98 23:00 GMT Received: (qmail 17021 invoked by alias); 20 Dec 1998 23:02:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16988 invoked from network); 20 Dec 1998 23:02:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO curnow.demon.co.uk) (158.152.181.99) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 1998 23:02:05 -0000 Received: from richard by curnow.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 2.02 #2) id 0zrrmC-00005H-00; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 22:56:40 +0000 To: lojban@onelist.com From: Richard Curnow Date: 20 Dec 1998 22:56:38 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lojban] lujvo making and the 'tosmabru failure' test X-PMFLAGS: 34078848 7 1 Y003D6.CNM Content-Length: 1512 Lines: 28 From: Richard Curnow Hi everyone I am trying to get to the bottom of the lujvo-making algorithm described in chapter 4, section 11 of the reference manual, in particular the test in 5) for 'tosmabru failure'. If the candidate lujvo starts CVC CVC CVC ..., and would break into a cmavo and a shorter brivla, I am struggling to see how it can break other than after the first CV, leaving the shorter brivla being all but the initial 2 letters. In this case, the test would just be whether the 3rd and 4th letters form an initial consonant pair, and would not require checking of other 'joints' as described in the document, or of the form of the trailing 'X' part of the lujvo. (I assume that the lujvo cannot break into 2 shorter brivla or into a brivla with a trailing cmavo, due to stress considerations when it is pronounced.) Any insights would be appreciated - I'm putting together my own bit of software to implement the algorithm to check I understand it correctly. Thanks Richard -- Richard P. Curnow Stevenage, England ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com