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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:50:07 -0800
From: "Engdahl, Rod" <engdahl@visa.com>
Subject: Re: Off-topic: cultures and mysticism (was: Promotin g Lojban)
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Actually, the libertarian believes that the purpose of government is served
in four areas:

1.  internal security (to protect individual rights) served by local and
regional police forces.
2.  external security (to defend from outside attack) served by regional and
federal armed forces
3.  arbitration (to ensure that civil and governmental disputes are fairly
resolved) served by local, regional and federal courts
4.  exchange standards (to ensure equitable exchange rates for the value of
the workforce) served by some fixed or governed monetary standard.

This is quite different from an anarchist, a simple believer in free will,
or a worshiper of governmental largess.

co'o mi'o rad.

> ----------
> From: 	Christopher Palmer[SMTP:reid@pconline.com]
> Sent: 	Friday, February 19, 1999 11:13 AM
> To: 	Lojban List
> Subject: 	[lojban] Re: Off-topic: cultures and mysticism (was:
> Promoting Lojban)
> 
> From: Christopher Palmer <reid@pconline.com>
> 
> On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, John Cowan wrote:
> 
> ['anarchist' = 'libertarian'?]
> 
> > Well, yes and no.  "Libertarian" has fairly distinct implications
> > of "propertarian" as well, these days, and so I would never apply
> > it to myself, where I would freely apply "anarchist".
> 
> I agree. I'd also add that Libertarians seem to want government in a few
> things, mainly those bits of government that involve giving people stuff
> (as long as they don't take anything away, of course); while on the other
> hand, anarchists want *no government whatsoever*.
> 
> > There is a Daniel Dennett article called "Giving Libertarians What
> > They Want", which uses "libertarian" in the sense "believer in
> > free will" (!)
> 
> Do you have a reference? I'd love to grab it. Dennett can be amusingly
> infuriating. :^)
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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