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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:14:52 -0500
From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" <lojbab@lojban.org>
Subject: Re: 'I say your name as ...'
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At 10:01 AM 2/22/99 -0500, John Cowan wrote:
>From: John Cowan <cowan@locke.ccil.org>
>
>Jorge J. Llambías wrote:
>
>> One problem might be that, at least in Lojban, linguistic forms and
>> their phonetic realizations (or "expressions" and "utterances") are
>> referred to by the same objects. You can say {mi ciska zoi gy foo gy}
>> or {mi bacru zoi gy foo gy} and {zoi gy foo gy} is in one case referring
>> to a linguistic form and in the other case to a phonetic realization,
>> isn't it?
>
>Probably.  But that doesn't mean that the lujvo "ba'usku", namely
>"b1=c1 phonetically expresses text c2 for audience c3
>using utterance/medium b2=c4" doesn't deserve to exist; it may not be
>useful for expressing the relations between *Lojban* sounds and
>texts, but it is useful for talking about other langs in Lojban.

Having had John point out that what was being sought was "pronunciation"
rather than "calling" of names, I would like to suggest the use of sinxa or
ba'usni/sniba'u.  I will let the place structure experts figure out which
would be better.

lojbab