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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:08:06 -0300
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" <jorge@intermedia.com.ar>
Subject: Re: xa'unro'a ximu
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la maikl cusku di'e

>ni'o .e'u zo piso'amei vau (Suggest "mostlysome-ly".) 

I don't know, I guess this brings us back to the fuzzy logic
discussion. I just don't see how {mei} can work here.
a {so'amei} is a group consisting of almost all members
of the relevant set, a {piso'amei} is about the same thing,
a group consisting of a fraction that is almost the total.

I would use it for example in {lei selci'a cu so'amei drani},
"the writings are mostly correct", meaning that almost 
all of them are correct, not that they are all almost correct.

{lei barna cu [pi]so'amei simsa loi lerfu}, to me, means 
that the marks are mostly similar to letters, i.e. that 
almost all of the marks look like letters, not that the
marks look all approximately similar to letters. 

>.i na'e kufra pilno pa valsi le smuni be zo jibni be'o poi 
>linji kamymre zi'a poi ckaji nunsmi bau la glico (Not 
>comfortable using one word for the meaning of the word "near", 
>that is linear-measureness or quality-similarness in English.) 

But that's how {jibni} is defined, it has an x3 for the property.

            i le ckule cu jibni le zarci le ka ce'u stuzi makau
            The school is close to the market in where they are located.

            i le ckule cu darno le zarci le ka pilno ce'u makau
            The school is far from the market in what they're used for.

>.i .e'uru'e zo jibni .onai zo pevjbi nu'o remei fi le pamoi 
>.e le remoi (Suggest "near" or else "as-if near" for the pair.) 

It seems to me that {jibni} and {darno} have as their primary 
meaning the extended meaning of English "near" and "far",
so I don't think {pe'a} is necessary here. The x3 of {jibni} 
would have no use if it was always for the physical location. 

>.i ju'enai pilno ba'e zo kaismi le smuni be zoi .gy. almost 
>.gy. vau .e'usai (Wait! What about "quality-similar"?) .i .ua 
>na glijbo .i peipe'i (Not anglicized, eh?)

Yes, I think the meanings are similar/close:

        lei marna loi lerfu cu jibni le ka tarmi
        The marks are close to letters in shape.

        lei marna loi lerfu cu simsa le ka tarmi
        The marks are similar to letters in shape.         

co'o mi'e xorxes