X-Digest-Num: 151 Message-ID: <44114.151.903.959273824@eGroups.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:49:42 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier-Logical Language Group Subject: Re: bridi place structure with unusual tertau X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 903 Content-Length: 1673 Lines: 50 Nora steps in with a rare response to a couple of these. At 08:54 PM 5/28/99 +0100, you wrote: >From: Richard Curnow >I'm trying to resolve how the x1..x5 places of a brivla are assigned to >the sumti in the bridi when the tertau takes on one of several unusual >forms. I don't recall any mention of (1), (3), (4) or (5) in the >reference grammar, although the BNF definition allows them. I'm fairly >sure of (2), I'm just looking for confirmation. > >(1) ko'a brodi broda je brode ko'e > >ko'a -> broda1 and brode1 >ko'e -> broda2 and brode2 > >i.e. it means the same as > >ko'a brodi broda ko'e gi'e brodi brode ko'e OR >ko'a brodi broda gi'e brodi brode vau ko'e See the reference grammar page 349 on example 12.2 ("ti blanu je zdani"). It says that "... Example 12.2 happens to be the same as 12.4) ti blanu gi'e zdani ...". This means that at least those sumti in front of the selbri are joint. (Nora notes that this is a bug in the parser/glosser at present). >(2) ko'a broda co brode ko'e > >ko'a -> broda1 >ko'e -> brode2 See page 95 of the reference grammar, example 8.2 through 8.4 and the discussion in between. It makes the place structure the your (2) come out the same a "ko'a bride be ko'e be'o broda". ---- lojbab ***NOTE NEW ADDRESS*** lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: see Lojban WWW Server: href=" http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/ " Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.