From a.rosta@uclan.ac.uk Thu Aug 26 06:23:00 1999 X-Digest-Num: 222 Message-ID: <44114.222.1216.959273825@eGroups.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:23:00 +0100 From: A Rosta Subject: Re: Anselmisms and gadro X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 1216 > This is the age-old chestnut of Lojban's habit of conflating > non-veridicality with specificity. There's not much I can do about that. > > ~mark If you don't mind doing without gadri -- and they are superfluous -- then disconflation is easy. veridical & nonspecific: da poi [= lo] veridical & specific: ko'a poi nonveridical & specific: ko'a voi [= le] More generally, {da} (& co.) gives you nonspecifics, {ko'a} (& co.) gives you specifics, and {voi} gives you the means to make nonveridical descriptions. --And.