From mark@kli.org Sun Aug 22 18:21:52 1999
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Date: 23 Aug 1999 01:21:52 -0000
From: mark@kli.org
Subject: Re: Lojban analogies and kennings; also "pe'a/po'a"
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>Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:34:52 -0700
>From: Ron Hale-Evans <rwhe@apocalypse.org>
>
>Thanks for your response, Jorge!
>
>>From: "Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>
>>
>>>From: Ron Hale-Evans <rwhe@apocalypse.org>
>>>
>>> L1. menske : menli :: ji'eske : xadni
>>>
>>> L2. .i ke menske tai menli ke'e tai ke ji'eske tai xadni ke'e
>>>
>>> L3. .i menske du menli ji'eske
>
><snip>
>
>>L2 is ungrammatical. The cmavo of selmaho BAI, like {tai},
>>can be used to tag a sumti or a selbri, much like tenses.
>>They don't work as connectives by themselves. You might
>>say something like:
>>
>> zo menske peki'i zo menli zo ji'eske peki'i zo xadni panra
>> {menske} in relationship to {menli} is parallel to
>> {ji'eske} in relationship to {xadni}.
>
>Thanks. I don't want to talk about the words, though; I want to talk 
>about abstract things. How about this?
>
>   lo menske peki'i lo menli cu panra lo ji'eske peki'i lo xadni
>
>What is "peki'i", BTW? Some kind of compound cmavo? I couldn't find 
>"peki'i", "pek", "pe" or "ki'i" in any wordlist or the Red Book.

Maybe neki'i would be better, actually.

"peki'i" is a compound cmavo: pe ki'i.  ki'i is a BAI word, "as a relation
of...", modeled after ckini.  pe is restrictive association.  But we're not
talking about psychology which is associate with minds as opposed to other
kinds of psychology; non-restrictive (ne) would make more sense, right?

~mark