X-Digest-Num: 221 Message-ID: <44114.221.1203.959273825@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:37:42 PDT From: "Jorge Llambias" Subject: Re: Anselmisms and gadro X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 1203 Content-Length: 752 Lines: 26 la pycyn cusku diŽe >Though there are several intervening levels of complexity, the >one I am now working with and can not make any headway on is >"the x such that it is not possible that someone conceive that there is a y >greater than x" As you say, the problem is that *{le da poi ...} is not grammatical in Lojban. One way around it is to use {broda} instead of {da} for the dummy variable: le broda poi na cumki fa le nu da pensi le nu de zmadu keŽa "The thingy such that it is not possible that there is someone that thinks that there is something greater than IT." This gives you the full properties of {le} and also lets you use the restrictive clauses with the quantification scopes at the right level. coŽo miŽe xorxes