From Pycyn@aol.com Mon Sep 20 08:54:06 1999 X-Digest-Num: 239 Message-ID: <44114.239.1314.959273825@eGroups.com> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:54:06 EDT From: Pycyn@aol.com Subject: Lojban Orthography (has been several other things) X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 1314 Enough of this airy-fairy orthographic fights, even if they are about the work of reasonably proficient linguists. Let's think about orthographies for real languages here. Most of the features that have been suggested exist in at least one set of real orthographies, the Indic, e.g. Devanagari, for which typesetting facilities already exist (though I don't know the name of any of the various versions). Ligatures are available for almost any combo you like but are generally fairly transparent, vowels can be collapsed to diacritic dimensions within words or expanded to the same size as consonants, semivowels exist in both consonantal and vowel-like forms, . and ' have natural -- and appropriately sized -- expressions, diphthongs have special forms quite different from vowel sequences, etc. etc. And very few forms are easily confused with one another, despite sharing a history with Hebrew, Armenian and Siamese orthographies, of which the muddle factors are often claimed. On broader issues, I again note that some parts of ProtoThinker(tm) might be used as a step toward a translation program into/out of Lojban. AndI like the idea of a Lojban word processor with all the peripherals (word check, spelling completion, place structure, compound analyser and grammar check). pc