X-Digest-Num: 260 Message-ID: <44114.260.1395.959273825@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 04:30:26 -0400 From: Paul Dufresne Subject: This list is not as I expected X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 1395 Content-Length: 2064 Lines: 43 Somehow, I am worry about if Lojban can really be used to think, in day to day process. I guess the answer is, of course not. A language is a communication tool, and you cannot use Lojban to write a report to your employer, or listen to the TV, because your employer is not speaking Lojban (most likely), and there is no Lojban TV channel, yet. But then, at least it should be very usable to do personal thoughts in your mind. But somehow I have the feeling few if any does that. The fact that I only see translation of text, rather than people posting their own ideas on a subject, without translation, make me think that they don't see Lojban simply like a tool to communicate. Of course translation of text is fine for people like me that would not understand anything without translation. But sure not having the translation would force me to try to decode the meaning, which would be good from a pedagogical point of view (well maybe not because I would give up very fast). Of course I was expecting to see people speak of Lojban itself on this mailing-list, but I was also expecting people speak of just about anything, by using the Lojban language. Something like... like the new 'coppermine' processors that will be announce october 25. I have seen some posts of very technical detail of Lojban, that seems to show great knowledge of the language, but these posts were made in english, which seems to indicate that even when people know well the language and speak for people that should know it well too, they still prefer to think and write it in english rather than Lojban. This make me afraid that I am learning Lojban for nothing, since Lojban must have some internal flaw that make it unusable for thinking. Of course I could be wrong, and I would be please to get pointers to Lojban text that have no translation in an other language, and that are not about Lojban itself, somehow showing that there is people who are able to think in Lojban. P.S. Please, don't do what I am suggesting, and don't reply exclusively in Lojban.