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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:48:59 -0500
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Subject: Re: 3 dogs, 2 men, many arguments
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At 7:46 AM -0800 11/1/99, Jorge Llambias wrote:

>>or "let set B be 3 fast cars".
>
>That doesn't define set B, there are many sets of 3 fast
>cars.


How about "the 3 fastest cars running today"?


>In any case, what exactly are you proposing? How would
>you say "Everybody loves somebody" in your version of
>Lojban? Do you need an extension of the grammar?
>Would you introduce a whole class of new cmavo to
>cover the mappings? Would it be an open class?
>You only gave a few examples of possible mappings,
>but there are an infinite number of them, right?
>Is there something that you could do with those that
>can't be done with Lojban as is?


What do you mean when you say  "Everybody loves somebody"? Do you mean that
each person in "everybody" loves their own "somebody", which may or may not
be the same person as is loved by another person in "everybody"? Or do you
mean that everybody loves person X?

pc says we have the whole of Set Theory at our disposal in Lojban. I wonder
what he meant by that. If that's the case, perhaps what I suggest is
trivial.

I haven't yet worked out all the implications of what I am suggesting. Is a
cross product mapping currently possible? Or a 1:1? So currently I see that
there are no or very limited ways to describe mappings within the prenex,
and that the default mapping is sufficiently nontrivial as to break SE
symmetry.

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