X-Digest-Num: 310 Message-ID: <44114.310.1710.959273825@eGroups.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:27:10 PST From: "Jorge Llambias" Subject: Re: More about questions and the like (was:What I have for dinner...") X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 1710 Content-Length: 853 Lines: 29 Here's another argument against the expansion, "for all x, John knows that x is...", this time not involving names. Let's say this morning John bought two bottles of milk and put them in the fridge, and just to make it simpler let's say the fridge was otherwise empty. Now, Mary tells John that she took one of the bottles out of the fridge. She obviously doesn't tell him which one, because nobody cares which one she took. Does John know what is now in the fridge? Yes, he knows that there is a bottle of milk in the fridge. Is it true that for all x, John knows whether x is in the fridge? No, he only knows that one of the two bottles that he put in the fridge is there, but he doesn't know which one (nor does he care). So, in this case at least, we cannot take the quantifier out of the intensional context. co'o mi'e xorxes